As i get older, those loads kick harder than they used to. By then, the 225 ttsx had arrived, so i switched to them. So, if im spending a bunch of money or hard to come by spare time for a hunt, id take my sako safarigrade. Jan 07, 2010 recoil pads for 338 win mag discussion in. I dont think the elk will know the difference if the elk is hit with either the 300 ultra mag or the 338 win. Using new brass, like lapua brass, when reloading allows you complete control over the finished cartridge. Zach and jonas were kind enough to take some of the recoil abuse on their shoulders for a few shots each.
Therefore, 300 prc has a slightly flatter trajectory, a little more retained energy, less wind drift, and somewhat more recoil than the 300 win mag. Choose the lowest price from our multiple warehouses. This is the lightest bullet i would shoot in this rifle for accuracy and distance. It dominates a vast territory between the muchloved. The 300 wby is definetly louder with more muzzle blast. Aint much difference between 1 groups and 34 groups with a. If i drop the load by 23 gr the velocity will be in the 28002900 range, still plenty of killin power for elk etc. I have a 7mm mag for the antelope and whitetail, but really like the. This is about twice as much as the recoil from an average. Then the dummy decided to cut the 300 rum barrel back to 22 inches. The standard thundertrap is constructed for all centerfire bolt and semiauto rifles chambered in a.
The only 338 win mag i ever shot was very mild shooting in my opinion. Beautiful walnut stock with cheek rest, decellerator recoil pad. But with all good things comes a price, and that price is recoil. The limbsaver is a great recoil pad, but for large bore weapons, we install the decelerator, i would say, at a 5 to 1. My brother bought me one of them for my birthday about 15 yrs. Okay, this may seem a bit odd, but work with me here. The 338 win mag shoots heavier and larger diameter bullets that are generally more aerodynamic than the bullets the 300 win mag. Just wondering if we have any members here willing to share favorite bulletpowder combos. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above.
We shot and compared three popular options to help you decide on the best elk cartridge for your style of hunting. Also, please understand that there are dozens of loads for any given bullet weight in any cartridge that will produce the same velocity, but a different amount of recoil. For a kill caliber to go beyond 600yards the 338 win mag action is the way to go. I set up my rest and rear bag perfectly in line and on target. Right click on the image of the load data and use save as. For the sake of simple practicality, given the far greater availability of. The new ruger 375 is a whole different ball of wax. The 338 is impressive with 225 grains bullets, but so are the 300s with 180 grains. If the object is to tame the recoil, i would think. Ever since the advent of the first metallic cartridge the 22 bb cap in 1845, hunters have demanded rifles, cartridges and bullets capable of terminating everything from ground squirrels to elephants. I dont down load it, use imr 4831 and imr 7828 under max recommended by the manual. Slightly reduced loads for 338 win mag for us older fellers. Ive looked over several manuals, and scoured the interwebs already, so im starting to get an idea of popular loads.
The 7mm is kind of in between, but i got a smokin good deal on it. Sa hunter, shoots ostrich in the head at 304m, with voere 338 win mag rifle. I own a relatively light weight 338 rum and you could consider that as well but recoil would be pretty monstrous without a brake. It offers tremendous performance on an incredibly broad spectrum of game at an affordable cost in recoil. I have killed blacktails, caribou, goat, moose, black bear and brown bears with those bullets. I have elk hunted with mine but never scored with it. Plenty of go to 600yds and beyond plus you can reload it to fit the hunting application you want. I honestly dont see a need to shoot any other bullet in alaska to take everything from sitka blacktails to brown bears with a 338 win mag. This isnt saying it isnt a good big game cartridge, just that i wouldnt call it a good choice for brown bear.
My favorite 338 rifle has become the 338 marlin express though. Winchester took their 338 win mag case and bumped the shoulder forward a bit. Hello, i just purchased a rem700 ss 5r 24 in 300 win mag. As a lever fan, the 338 me makes an ideal elk and deer gun. Also, the length of the 300 win mag case as compared to its overall length doesnt allow for longerhigher bc bullets to be loaded out as far as they like to be.
Unfortunately we are not able to ship ammunition including air pellets. Heres a short black bear hunt with my friends, dion and nev. Couple of thing to consider when kill shooting long distance 400 and beyond top of the line optics. As i said in my cartridge intro for the 8th edition of the nosler reload guide. While waiting for the gun to get here i ordered a decent recoil pad and was thinking that depending on the recoil i would need to get a muzzle brake too. The 375 i shot was a win 70 sporter with a limbsaver installed and a leupold 1. I think that the 338 shoves rather than the sharper, faster recoil of the 300 magnums. This cartridge is a very good mediumbore cartridge that was introduced by winchester, along with the. A common remark is, i can actually hear the gas escape from the suppressor. The 300 prc, on the other hand, is a nonbelted magnum that can push the same weight bullets slightly faster without reaching dangerous pressures. The following data indicates estimated felt recoil reduction after the installation of our muzzle brake.
How to moderate heavy recoil rifles ron spomer outdoors. Some of yall better stay away from the 416 rigby, the. I take my 338 win mag to the rifle range and do my best to put some groups down after not firing it for nearly two years. Muzzle brakes are fitted to reduce recoil, jump and flash and act as a base for optional iron sights and suppressors.
Would factory loads 180 grain be too much for a kid with the savage p. I have ruled out the 338 win mag because all of the load data i have seen just doesnt meet my velocity goals at least not without tons of pressure and a very long barrel. He isnt interested in max velocity just a shootable, accurate load for medium range elk. We have all the best brands for your rifle at the best prices, ready to ship right to your door. Dont have any problems shooting either without hearing protection when hunting. For years i went without a 300 rum and my favorite hunting cartridge has been the 338 win mag. The 300 weatherby or ultra mag are like peas in a pod. With the 338 you can punch through both shoulders and have a decent sized entrance and exit wound. I would choose the 338 win between the 2 for more available ammo and a little cheaper.
I you do decide to buy a 300 win mag, buy reduced loads until you grow into the rifle. So the figures in any recoil table should be taken as approximate. Recoil pads for 338 win mag firearms talk the community. Well since i just bought that tikka 338 win mag on here,i say the 338 is the best.
This is a 3 or 4 grain from max load that yielded about 2750 fps in his rifle. Thus if my goal was to take out the running gear in hopes of keeping the moose from getting to water, the. Whats the recoil like of the 333 win mag i currently shot a remington mountain rifle in 3006 and a 7mm ultra mag have no problem with either i seen a used 338 at the local gun shop that has a good price its been there for 6 months the dealer said not too many people want something that big for pa whitetails but i always prefered the big bore calibers by the way i mostly hunt whitetails with. Firing both while standing wasnt a problem, even kinda fun. The gun i will get for him is a savage 111 trophy hunter xp.
Alan wilder has initiated a series of youtube clips centred around the selected live events and forthcoming album, out on mute 19th april 2010. The 338 federal is really not in the magnum class if you compare it to the 338 win mag or the 340 weatherby. These sorts of things cannot be accounted for in a recoil table. For this reason, the 338 lapua has a flatter trajectory, penetrates better, and retains more kinetic energy at typical hunting ranges. View profile view forum posts private message member join date nov 2007 location anchorage posts 257. Rifle brass is made for almost every conceivable cartridge, from 223 brass and 308 brass to older offerings like 3040 krag brass and even one of the newest, 6. I have hunted for years with max handloads for my 338 win mag with great success.
With all that powder capacity and power, the 338 win mag is always commonly associated with a 250 grain bullet. You will experience about 30% more recoil than your 3006 delivers. He was saying that no matter how hard it bounces around the bullet has left the barrel long before the rifle starts to recoil. The accuracy international awm is a boltaction sniper rifle manufactured by accuracy. Muzzle brake comparison chart odenthals gunsmithing. A lot less recoil than the magnum but excellent down range ballistics. Hi luiss, glad you are comfortable with your new 338. Sep 18, 2015 e8 338 win mag recoil and sighting in duration. I will primarily be using this rifle for moose and bear, along with a. Five reasons for 300 remington ultra magnum ron spomer. For an elk only rifle, i would probably just go with the. If you ask me that makes it more of an already great thing, but that of course comes at the price of recoil. Its just that i just enjoy more shooting with a rifle that has less recoil but which i know is fully capable of taking any animal in the world, the 9.
It has less recoil than those as well, and uses bullets with higher ballistic coefficients which lets the. Read this before you buy one big game hunting blog. Depending on your personal tolerance and how it fits you that may or may not matter. The 338 just does so while shooting a larger heavier bullet.
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